Finally this site brings in some results.... And Ryan attempts to do a deal. Curiously it works when you contact his "wife", who, unfortunately, appears to believe him that he has actually coughed up. Read below for how Ryan wriggles, lies to me, lies to his wife, hacks into his wifes email (which explains no contact ages ago) and delays...
From: Alex Hall
Subject: I see
To: tdvnjb@yahoo.com, tdvnjb@gmail.com
Date: Monday, 3 May, 2010, 23:36
You've been to Britain and back and Ryan is spending money on expensive things like holidays and Phones,
I STILL WANT MY MONEY BACK. TELL HIM TO GIVE IT TO ME.
I also found out a lot of dirt on Ryan and you should see the updates to the site.
http://www.ryanhollis.co.uk
I JUST WANT MY CASH BACK!!!!
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Subject: Re: I see
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 15:44:39 +0000 (GMT)
From: Tina de Vera
To: alex@ryanhollis.co.uk
how much he borrowed from you? how can we talk?
From: Alex Hall
Subject: Re: I see
To: "Tina de Vera"
Date: Monday, 3 May, 2010, 23:46
I can phone you up now if you want.
I gave him 34,000 pesos, £500 english pounds. He has refused to get in
touch since he went back to England, broke, at christmas last year.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: I see
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 15:51:33 +0000 (GMT)
From: Tina de Vera
To: alex@ryanhollis.co.uk
im in the hospital now looking after my son. are you still in the philippines? i cant leave my son alone here. How can i contact u?
FROM THE SUBMIT INFORMATION PAGE
I have just tried calling your number on the site twice but I get nothing. Call me now on 447500864388
FROM THE SUBMIT INFORMATION PAGE
Tried your office number and your mobile niether number works, contact me on 447500864388 asap as tried and tried to call you and take down this site bringing Tina and the kids into this is a very low thing to do. Nearly all your facts are incorrect also but not going to argue over things enough on my plate with Bren being in hospital. You want your money suspend this site now and contact me so we can sort it out and set the record straight. Oh it's Ryan by the way
I talk to Ryan, we agree a deal... he will pay me back as soon as he can.... I suspend this site for a while so he can sort it out. I send him an email with the details, which, later, he tries to claim he never received....
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: I see
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 16:00:02 +0000 (GMT)
From: Tina de Vera
To: alex@ryanhollis.co.uk
we will be there in a couple of months and i will deal with everything. please just take out my photos and the kids please. i dont care about ryan's shit but i will deal with you. i will pay you. i dont believe this guy anymore but my kids dont deserve to be included here.
------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: I see
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 16:02:54 +0000 (GMT)
From: Tina de Vera
To: alex@ryanhollis.co.uk
i have to go bren is crying. ill try to be online later.. can u email me all the shit you found out about ryan? ill try to be online as soon as bren is asleep. thanks
From: Alex Hall
Subject: Re: I see
To: "Tina de Vera"
Date: Monday, 3 May, 2010, 23:56
Yes I heard.
Hope he gets well soon.
I am on +447549480611
I am in Britain and have been here for some time.
I have tried to contact you before but I got no reply, in fact you disappeared.
If Ryan told you he paid me back he's a liar. I gave him the money when he said you were broke, you must remember coming to my wife's party out in Angono? But I am quite serious about getting my money back, I have tried everything to get in touch, the website was my last hope some time ago, and I am now thinking about getting the police involved as its obvious he's got some money and I only tried to help you out.
From: Alex Hall
Subject: Re: I see
To: "Tina de Vera"
Date: Tuesday, 4 May, 2010, 4:07
Hallo Tina
I have been chasing my repayment for over year. First he went quiet, then he disappeared. The site went up as a last ditch attempt to find someone who had more or less disappeared of the face of the planet. He didn't answer emails that I know he read, but he is a character, The site has trawled a load of crap over a year, I have ex friends, ex girlfriends, people he met in pubs, even some of his relatives!
It comes to something that this is the only thing that has worked in getting his attention at least! I will tell you everything you need to know if I get my cash back. I'd rather keep my gunpowder dry for now. I'm sorry but I have to play it this way as you are best placed to make sure that i actually get my favour repaid. That it comes to this!!!!!!
Incidentally, does Ryan have your mail password? I'd change it if I were you. I wouldn't be surprised if he's been in here as well.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: I see
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 02:16:07 +0000 (GMT)
From: Tina de Vera
To: Alex Hall
yes i gave my password. i will change it now thanks
On Fri May 7th, 2010 5:23 PM CST Alex Hall wrote:
Hello
Hope your son is OK. I am wondering what progress Ryan has made in getting me my money back to me. He's had it a long time now, I wondered if you could enlighten me?
Alex.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: News
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 14:23:23 +0000 (GMT)
From: Tina de Vera
To: alex@ryanhollis.co.uk
He s trying to contact his friend that would deposit the money to your account. He said he will do it on Wednesday. Will that be okay with you?
From: Alex Hall
Subject: Re: News
To: "Tina de Vera"
Date: Wednesday, 12 May, 2010, 18:49
Hallo Tina
Well I haven't contacted the police yet since I'd really rather just have my money back. I've text Ryan, no answer. What am I supposed to do? Am I going to get my money back? I could really do with it as I am under the cosh let alone the rights and wrongs of this.
Incidentally I dug up details of his 2005 marriage, which I am not sure was divorced properly. I can tell you more if you are still able to talk.
Hope he's not deleting your emails before you get them.
Alex.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: News
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 09:03:36 +0000 (GMT)
From: Tina de Vera
To: alex@ryanhollis.co.uk
hello i just got online now and what pisses me off right now is the fact that you used images of me and my children and you don't stop contacting my people. You will get your money back. I have changed my password already so dont worry i just havent answered you because i never get the chance to go online.
> Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 13:45:23 +0100
> From: alex@ryanhollis.co.uk
> To: tdvnjb@yahoo.com; ryantalk@live.com; ryantalk@yahoo.co.uk; ryantalk@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: News
Tina,
> I'm not out to damage anyone's reputation, I just want my money back. I
> noticed a comment on Ryan's facebook page - where incidentally all the
> recent pictures and info came from - in which he makes some claim about
> me being uncontactable. He's facebook has now shut down as I told him in
> facebook all my contact details which you all have there.
To prove the point, I am writing this mail to you, and his email
> addresses past and present that he has told me to mail to and which he
> will not reply to saying that I do not get in contact. So you can check
> the email addresses above and see that I am not fucking hiding.
> I'm sorry this has done damage to you, but you are contactable, he hides
> behind you, the weasel. You might be interested to read two more
> additional pieces of information that came through the site today:
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: News
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 16:23:25 +0000
From: Ryan Hollis
To:
References: <99995.51608.qm@web24103.mail.ird.yahoo.com>,<4C0CE9E3.4020000@ryanhollis.co.uk>
Finally you send me an email, been waiting for long enough and to repeat myself your numbers have been uncontactable even your numbers on your company website i find it hard to believe a landline number has bad reception.
secondly thank you for the lovely insults "weasel" as for hiding i messaged you when you put the site back up to let you know whats been happening so if keeping you informed is hiding then i am guilty.
as for the rest of the email both tina and i dont care anymore to be honest we are both sick to death of it. tina told me she had emailed you confirming you will get paid back.
the money you were ment to receive was what was owed to me by a friend the reason for the delay was his aunt had just died the weekend i spoke to you and he was to sort things out when he got back home.
the only problem was that on his return home he found he had been burgled along with his laptop xbox and other things the money he was to pay me had been taking also . obviously a burglar see's cash the will take it.
so all that's happening now is a slight delay but you will receive 2 payments once's its sorted out as i politely told you when we spoke on the phone.
in the mean time both myself and tina would appreciate you removing the illegal pictures of our children you are displaying on the site as you have neither our permission or consent to display said images of minors.
also as your problem is with me there would appear to be no reason to display any picture of tina on the site or post things about her either.
in roughly 2 weeks possible 3 but i think 2 weeks i will make half the payment to the account of your choice or moneygram /western union if we can do that within the same country in the UK.but i want some assurances,
1. The children's images will be removed as of now.
2. The images of Tina and references to her are also removed, as there is more mentioned about her i would like to see this take affect by the end of this week
3. the website is targeted at me and only me until your payment is received
4. i have written confirmation that upon the first payment the website will be suspended and remain suspended for 4 weeks to give me time to pay the second half at which point the website will be deleted, not a post or banner placed there, just deleted.
f you can assure me by doing points 1 and 2 and giving me in writing that you agree to upon first half payment to suspend for that period and delete in the manner i have requested upon final payment we have a deal.
i would like to add finally that if you had emailed me here as i asked you to do when i was in the hospital i would have been keeping you informed on what had happed alot sooner.
anyway hope this email finds you well and gives you some peace of mind
i assume that what i have requested will be agreeable to you as the end result is what you want it to be and in the mean time the site will target just the person you have the problem with me.
if you want to know why so long between payments and things that is because i have the children to support and i wont let them suffer for something i have done i am sure you will understand this. rest assured though as long as the terms are agreed YOU WILL GET PAID.
yours sincerley
Ryan
> Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 09:26:52 +0100
> From: alex@ryanhollis.co.uk
> To: ryantalk@live.com
> CC: tdvnjb@yahoo.com
> Subject: RE: News
Ryan,
> Always happy to be reasonable about getting repaid, and I accept the
> terms of your proposal. I have removed pictures of your family members
> as requested, and information you requested removed. Just to make sure
> that this is received I have also cc'd in your wife.
> So: first payment due in 2-3 weeks of 250 pounds. Lets just call that 30 June.
> If I receive the money on or by the 30 June I will suspend the site
> for 4 weeks, until 28 July. suspended means no information will be
> displayed.
If I receive final payment of 250 pounds on or by 28 July the site
> will be deregistered and we will never hear from each other again.
> These payments should be made into my account which is Nationwide,
> sort code ** ** **, account number 4*** ***4, or you can text me on
> +447549480611 or email and you can send then to Western Union. I would
> prefer into my bank.
> If you do not meet either of the two requirements above then the site
> will go up as it was and displaying further information as I receive
> it. I will also probably take further action.
> However, thank you for replying with your proposal. I hope we can
> make it work, and I should also note that I am not asking for anything
> more than I originally lent you to get you home.
> Alex.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: News
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 09:41:39 +0000
From: Ryan Hollis
To:
References: <99995.51608.qm@web24103.mail.ird.yahoo.com>,<4C0CE9E3.4020000@ryanhollis.co.uk>,
Thank you for your response i was starting to thing you had not got my email as it had been a couple of days.
thank you for agreeing to the proposal and if any problems arise i will let you know as soon as i do but i do not think there will be any problems from my end that was the point it the time periods i gave you to allow me time to sort things at my end for you .
anyway cheers and hope things are ok your end tina mentioned your out of work i understand things can be hard especially with the UK economy the way it is still
talk soon
Ryan
> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 13:38:52 +0100
> From: alex@ryanhollis.co.uk
> To: ryantalk@live.com
> CC: tdvnjb@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: News
> Ryan
> Just to remind you of our agreement below and that the first payment is
> due in 7 days. All the account details are there, below.
> Alex.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: News
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 01:37:22 +0000
From: Ryan Hollis
To:
References: <99995.51608.qm@web24103.mail.ird.yahoo.com>,<4C0CE9E3.4020000@ryanhollis.co.uk>,
going to be trying to do an electronic transfer friday morning will keep you posted.
Ryan
-------- Original Message --------
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 10:10:10 +0000
From: Ryan Hollis
To:
I'll be trying to do an electronic bank transfer tomorrow just waiting on a cheque to clear at the moment will email you tomorrow when i have done it .
Ryan
> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 16:39:31 +0100
> From: alex@ryanhollis.co.uk
> To: ryantalk@live.com; tdvnjb@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re:
Ryan
> There are no funds in my account and it is now 4.30pm here. You have not
> mailed to explain.
> I don't know what you are thinking, there has been plenty of time to
> sort this out, I've accepted your arrangement even though its over a
> year late, and here we are again. This is truly exasperating. I really
> do wonder what goes on in your mind, whether its malicious or just
> stupidity, maybe you've got some sort of mental problem. I really don't
> know.
> We agreed what would happen if you didn't repay me, and I will action
> this tomorrow. I've collected yet more information on you and its coming
> together in a nice tidy file which the cops have said they are
> interested in once I can get other people to speak to them.
> Tina, I'm sorry.
> Alex.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE:
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 01:00:15 +0000
From: Ryan Hollis
To:
References:
i have checked with my bank both online and in branch and the payment has left my account. it should already be in your account i have been informed
if its not there still when you get this email let me know asap and i'll go back to the bank and start to kick up some stink till they can give me a straight answer or refund the money and i'll do a counter payment for you . they told me it should have been showing in your account within 2 hours of transfer.
Ryan
> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 07:17:16 +0100
> From: alex@ryanhollis.co.uk
> To: ryantalk@live.com
> Subject: RE:
> Nope. Nothing.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE:
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 09:54:36 +0000
From: Ryan Hollis
To:
References:
just leaving to go to bank now will give you an update when i get some damn answers . thought it would be easy doing it this way guess i'll do counter payments from now on.
ryan
> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 11:02:15 +0100
> From: alex@ryanhollis.co.uk
> To: ryantalk@live.com; tdvnjb@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re:
> They have branches of RBS in the Philippines? And you're going to the
> bank 1800 local time?
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE:
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 16:53:47 +0000
From: Ryan Hollis
To:
References:
you must be joking right. i told you last week i was back in the UK. let me guess you thought i was in the philippines because my ip shows philippines. i'm actually accessing the web through my phone burning up the left over PH credit thats prob why it shows a ph on my ip. found that one out when i was using my uk sim there and was able to watch bbc iplayer which was a bonus.
as for the cash i had sent, the bank cant see a problem and everything shows as fine there end i have been going mad at them that it is not in the receivers account 24 hours after i sent it and i need it sorting out NOW. i double checked your details and they are correct with what you told me. the bank says they will claw the transfer back for me and will have it in my account again at close of business lol yeah right called them and there close of business is not close of branch and i need to wait till after midnight well 3:30 am is when RBS update accounts apparently so i should be able to get to the branch before 12 tomorrow and do a counter payment as long as what i've been told is right. i got work tonight so will check bank on way home in the AM if all is good will let you know if not will be back in the bank shouting at the manager and will let you know then. either way will let you know whats happening dont worry i'm on it and you will get your cash. if all else fails my cheque will be cleared tuesday morning delay was something to do with different banks and clearing times it was not 2 days it was actually 5 not including weekends grrr i was told in branch it would be cleared by end of the day on tuesday this week goes to show RBS are a little bit shite especially the charges they give people they charge you.
anyway will email you in the am hopefully if not will be shortly after the branch kicks me out when they close.
Ryan
> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 18:01:38 +0100
> From: alex@ryanhollis.co.uk
> To: ryantalk@live.com
> Subject: RE:
> Yes your IP shows PH.
> Let me reiterate the account details:
> Sort code: ** ** **
> Account Number 4*** ***4
> Hear from you shortly.
> Alex.
> Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 18:13:59 +0100
> From: alex@ryanhollis.co.uk
> To: ryantalk@live.com
> CC: tdvnjb@yahoo.com
> Subject: RE:
> Ryan,
> There's no money in my account as yet. Here's an idea. Why don't you -
> on tuesday - go and see the business manager and get him to give me a
> call: 07549 480 611. Given everything that's happened at least I will
> know if you are acting in good faith and we are both dealing with
> shitty banks rather than what I fear is the case.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Now what.
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 12:39:28 +0100
From: Alex Hall
Reply-To: alex@ryanhollis.co.uk
Organisation: Transparency Research
To: Tina de Vera
So, you saw Ryan's correspondence with me, and he's lied through his
teeth and has no intention of paying me. What am I to do, Tina?
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE:
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:50:40 +0000
From: Ryan Hollis
To:
References:
Tina just got an email from you asking what you should do now ? this has come as a surprise to us both as we have not heard from you since the 3rd and we assumed you had received full payment by now as its been deposited to your account details supplied.
if you had not received the payment why have you left it so long to contact us and why contact Tina and not me ? this seems very strange as we are not going to be paying out twice.
Ryan
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re:
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 16:00:31 +0100
From: Alex Hall
Reply-To: alex@ryanhollis.co.uk
Organisation: Transparency Research
To: Ryan Hollis
References:
Ryan
There is no money in my account. You have not paid anything and I told
you this below. And in any case according to our arrangement you were
supposed to have paid back the full £500 by now. You have not paid me
one penny. The reason I don't chase this every fucking day is because it
is tedious to do so and I have been chasing my money for well over a
year. I have other things to do other than worry about being defrauded
by a petty thief. This email from you below is an absolute lie and
designed simply to deflect from the fact that you have not paid me and
have no intention of doing so. However, I have checked again and there
is NO payment from you in my account ever.
If you are so absolutely sure that you have made the correct
arrangements and paid me my money, then why don't you or Tina send me
your address, I'll issue a court summons, and we will let a judge decide
if you have paid me back or not. You can bring your bank statements as
proof you paid me and I'll bring mine that show not one payment from you
at all.
Tina, he has not paid me and if he tells you he has look at his bank
statements.
Alex.